Shariah, the Threat to America- Team B II

September 18, 2010

David Yerushalmi: Is Shariah the Same as Jewish Law?

September 18, 2010

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Ripping up the Koran (Q’ran / Quran)

September 11, 2010

Protesters rip pages from Quran in White House stunt

AFP, Sep 12, 2010, 12.52am IST

WASHINGTON: A small group of conservative Christians tore some pages from a Quran in a protest outside the White House on Saturday to denounce what they called the “charade of Islam” on the anniversary of 9/11.

Randall Terry

Randall Terry

“Part of why we’re doing that, please hear me: the charade that Islam is a peaceful religion must end,” said Randall Terry, a leading anti-abortion campaigner, and one of six people who took part in the protest.

Another activist, Andrew Beacham, read out a few Quran passages calling for hatred towards Christians and Jews, and then ripped those pages from an English paperback edition of the Islamic holy book.

He carefully put the torn pieces into a plastic bag, in order not to litter, and said: “The only reason I will not burn it at the White House is because to burn anything on the Capitol grounds is a felony.”

Beacham, who describes himself as a leader of the rightwing conservative Tea Party from Indiana, added: “The Twin Towers were taken down because of the Koran and other religious teachings.”

A few curious tourists stopped to watch the huddle outside the White House, while police took down the names of the participants but did not intervene.

The tiny protest came as the United States marked the somber ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks amid heightened tensions following a radical Florida pastor’s threat to burn the Quran.

After days of global outrage and protests, pastor Terry Jones, from Gainesville, said today: “We will definitely not burn the Quran, no.”

“Not today, not ever,” he told NBC television when pressed for his plans.

President Barack Obama told a deeply polarized America today that Islam was not the enemy as the 9/11 ceremonies took place.

“As Americans we will not and never will be at war with Islam. It was not a religion that attacked us that September day. It was al-Qaida, (a) sorry band of men, which perverts religion,” Obama said.

Read more: Protesters rip pages from Quran in White House stunt – The Times of India

I’m Jewish.  I can’t say that people should listen to what I’m saying.   I believe that the current interpretation of Christians being pacifists is erroneous.  I have read the Old Testament many times and I have read the New Testament twice in it’s entirety and many more times just going back to it here and there.  I don’t profess to be a scholar.

All that being said, I believe that the majority of Pacifism comes from ONE specific passages.

38″You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[a] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.  — Matthew 5:38 Exodus 21:24; Lev. 24:20; Deut. 19:21

This interpretation is valid on an individual basis.  One individual to another individual.  It was not meant to encapsulate nations and cultures and ideologies and religions.  This passage is for individual relations.  It is created so that people could commune together and be able to forgive each other in the lives that they lead together.  They don’t need to be related but are entwined in the same community or location.  This passage should not and, really, does not apply to governments, organizations, religions, or cultures.  The proof that it doesn’t lies in Jesus’ own actions regarding these other entities.  He didn’t make peace with the pharisees, nor the tax collectors or the Romans.  He spoke out harshly against them.  He used all forms of expression to make people understand that those people were, in his point of view, WRONG or EVIL.  Although, he never physically hurt anyone, he did use his words to “condemn” others, which could have had physical repercussion.   The one thing that is clear is that HE did call EVIL exactly that.

He spoke CLEARLY.  Do you hear any leader speaking clearly.

Obama says, “Let me be clear”, yet he is anything but clear.

Jeremiah :

he command came to Jeremiah from Jehovah, “Stand in the door of the temple and speak this message: ‘Hear the word of Jehovah, all you people of Judah who enter these gates to worship him. Jehovah, the God of Israel, says: Change your ways and your deeds and I will let you live in this place. Trust not in misleading words, thinking, this is the temple of Jehovah. For if you really change your ways and your deeds, if you faithfully see that justice is done between a man and his neighbor, if you do no wrong to the foreigners who live among you, to the fatherless nor to the widow, and do not shed the blood of the innocent in this place nor follow other gods to your hurt, then I will let you stay in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, forever and ever.

The Prophet Jeremiah

The Prophet Jeremiah

“‘But now you are trusting in misleading words that are useless. Will you steal, murder, tell lies and offer sacrifice to Baal, and follow other gods whom you have not known, and then come and stand before me in this house which bears my name and say, We are free to do all these shameful deeds? Is this my house, which bears my name, in your eyes a den of robbers? I myself have seen these shameful deeds,’ says Jehovah.

“‘Then go to my temple which was at Shiloh, where people used to worship me at first, and see what I did to it because of the wickedness of my people Israel. Now because you have done all these deeds, and have paid no attention, although I spoke to you earnestly and often; and have not answered, although I called you, I will destroy the temple which bears my name, in which you trust, and the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did at Shiloh. I will also send you from my sight, as I have sent away your relatives, even all the Northern Israelites.'”

When Jeremiah had finished speaking all that Jehovah had commanded him to say, the priests and prophets seized him and said, “You must die. Why have you said in the name of Jehovah that this temple shall be like Shiloh and this city shall be deserted, with no one living in it?” And all the people were gathered about Jeremiah in the temple of Jehovah.

But when the public officials of Judah heard of these things, they came up from the palace to the temple of Jehovah and held court at the entrance, at the new gate of the temple. Then the priests and the prophets said to the officials and to the people, “This man should be put to death, for he has prophesied against this city as you have heard with your own ears.” But Jeremiah answered the officials and all the people, “It was Jehovah who sent me to prophesy against this temple and city all that you have heard. Now therefore change your ways and your deeds and listen to Jehovah your God; and he will not do the evil things that he has threatened to do to you. But as for me, see, I am in your power; do to me as you think right and proper. Only remember that, if you put me to death, you will bring upon yourselves and upon this city and upon its inhabitants guilt for shedding innocent blood, for Jehovah has indeed sent me to you to tell you all these things.”

Then the officials and all the people said to the priests and to the prophets, “This man does not deserve to die, for he has spoken to us in the name of Jehovah our God.” Certain of the elders of the land rose and said to the assembly of the people, “Micah prophesied in the days when Hezekiah ruled over Judah, and said to the people of Judah, ‘Jehovah of hosts says:

“Zion shall be ploughed as a field,
Jerusalem shall become a ruin,
The temple-mount an overgrown hill.”‘

“Did Hezekiah and the people of Judah put him to death? Did they not rather fear Jehovah and ask him to forgive them, so that he did not do the evil things that he had threatened to do to them? But we are in danger of doing great harm to ourselves?”

G-d doesn’t WANT us to remain silent and passive when it’s HIS commandments that are being broken.

Terrorists who kill innocent people, FGM, Multiple wives (Jews don’t have multiple wives – in the old testament that was allowed but in practice this is no longer acceptable.  Divorce is allowed, but it’s not as easy.  The legalities are similar to that of the legal divorces here), stonings,  and beheadings.  Other than the violent, bloody and horrid aspects of Islam there are other issues:  foreigners are not accepted and this is dangerous, because that is what makes Islam EXCLUSIONARY.  It is INTOLERANT.

To Accept intolerance is to become intolerant.

Intolerance is negative.  Tolerance is positve.  To tolerate intolerance equals EVIL.

To NOT tolerate INTOLERANCE is GOOD.  It negates intolerance.


To not keep his commandments is to NOT have G-d as your ideology.   Islam breaks with almost all the commandments.  Islam is not following the g-d of Israel or the Christians.

G-d is LOVE

What is LOVE?

Is it love if only one person loves the other in a romantic relationship?

A mother has unconditional love for her child, but that love INCLUDES discipline.

Love requires HONOR.  It is RECIPROCAL.

Auschwitz gas chamber, October 2005

Auschwitz gas chamber, October 2005

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Flight 93 crash site

Flight 93 impact crater

The Holocaust

pentagon attack 9 11

9-11 POTUS OBAMA PENTAGON SPEECH – “But as Americans we are not — and never will be — at war with Islam.It was not a religion that attacked us that September day — it was al-Qaeda, a sorry band of men which perverts religion,”

September 11, 2010

I am soo outraged at this language that I have no words right now.

This President has blood on his hands.  I can’t imagine that he is AMERICAS President.

I cry!

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America ‘will never be at war with Islam’, says Barack Obama on 9/11 anniversary:

Published: Saturday, Sep 11, 2010, 18:02 IST | Updated: Saturday, Sep 11, 2010, 20:46 IST
Place: Washington, DC | Agency: ANI
As he led Americans in remembering the victims of the 9/11 attacks, President Barack Obama today pledged that the US will “never be at war” with Islam as it was dreaded terror group al-Qaeda which attacked the country, not a religion.

Addressing fellow citizens on the heels of a Florida pastor threatening to burn copies of Koran and the controversy surrounding plans to build a mosque near the Ground Zero,
Obama said the terrorist elements may seek to spark conflict
between different faiths. The pastor has since abandoned the plans.

“But as Americans we are not — and never will be — at war with Islam.It was not a religion that attacked us that September day — it was al-Qaeda, a sorry band of men which perverts religion,” Obama said in his address from Pentagon, one of the sites of the attacks.

He also vowed to keep the nation safe come what may and remembered the victims of the terrorist attacks in New York, Pentagon and Pennsylvania that killed more than 3,000 people.

“For our nation, this is a day of remembrance, a day of reflection, and — with God’s grace — a day of unity and renewal,” Obama said as he paid a visit to hallowed ground at the Pentagon and laid a wreath.

The main function was held at the Ground Zero site in New York City, attended by the vice-president Joe Biden.

First Lady, Mitchell Obama and her predecessor Laura Bush, attended a remembrance ceremony in Pennsylvania.

Obama said, “Today, in Afghanistan and beyond, we have gone on the offensive and struck major blows against al-Qaeda and its allies.We will do what is necessary to protect our country, and we honour all those who serve to keep us safe.”

“They may seek to strike fear in us, but they are no match for our resilience.We do not succumb to fear, nor will we squander the optimism that has always defined us as a people,” the US president said.

“The perpetrators of this evil act didn’t simply attack America; they attacked the very idea of America itself — all that we stand for and represent in the world,” Obama said in his remarks.

“They (terrorists) may seek to exploit our freedoms, but we will not sacrifice the liberties we cherish or hunker down behind walls of suspicion and mistrust.

“They may wish to drive us apart, but we will not give in to theirhatred and prejudice,” Obama said.

He said as America condemns intolerance and extremism abroad, its citizens should stay true to its traditions here at home as a diverse and tolerant nation.

“We champion the rights of every American, including the right to worship as one chooses — as service members and civilians from many faiths do just steps from here, at the very spot where the terrorists struck this building,” he said.

In New York, vice-president Joe Biden read a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. “Build today, then strong and sure, With a firm and ample base; And ascending and secure. Shall tomorrow find its place.”,7340,L-3952446,00.html

Florida – burn the Q’RAN (KORAN) Day – Is the RIGHT THING TO DO

Flight 93 crash-site will soon be home to the world’s largest mosque

Flight 93 memorial finished- is a MOSQUE

Petition from ACT to stop the Ground Zero Mosque – 9/11 mosque at the Twin Towers site

Petition – Stop the Muslim Victory of the WEST in their own words “Ramadan the Month of Victory” – A UK Conference is being hailed as a “take over from within” quite vocally.

Burn A Koran – canceled? Maybe not

September 9, 2010

Rev. Terry Jones stands outside a church outreach centre in Gainesville, Fla., on Aug. 30, 2010.

Florida minister calls off Quran burning, then reconsiders:

Antonio Gonzalez Associated Press

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — An anti-Islamic preacher backed off and then threatened to reconsider burning the Quran on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, angrily accusing a Muslim leader of lying to him Thursday with a promise to move an Islamic center and mosque away from New York’s ground zero. The imam planning the center denied there was ever such a deal.

The Rev. Terry Jones generated an international firestorm with his plan to burn the Quran on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and he has been under intense pressure to give it up. President Barack Obama urged him to listen to “those better angels” and give up his “stunt,” saying it would endanger U.S. troops and give Islamic terrorists a recruiting tool. Defense Secretary Robert Gates took the extraordinary step of calling Jones personally.

Standing outside his 50-member Pentecostal church, the Dove Outreach Center, alongside Imam Muhammad Musri, the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, Jones said he relented when Musri assured him that the New York mosque will be moved.

Hours later, after Musri and the leader of the New York mosque denied such an agreement, Jones said Musri “clearly, clearly lied to us.”

“Given what we are now hearing, we are forced to rethink our decision,” Jones said. “So as of right now, we are not canceling the event, but we are suspending it.”

Jones did not say whether the Quran burning could still be held Saturday, but he said he expected Musri to keep his word and expected “the imam in New York to back up one of his own men.”

Jones had never invoked the mosque controversy as a reason for his planned protest. He cited his belief that the Quran is evil because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behavior among Muslims.

But he said Thursday afternoon that he prayed about the decision and concluded that if the mosque was moved, it would be a sign from God to call off the Quran burning.

“We are, of course, now against any other group burning Qurans,” Jones said. “We would right now ask no one to burn Qurans. We are absolutely strong on that. It is not the time to do it.”

Musri thanked Jones and his church members “for making the decision today to defuse the situation and bring to a positive end what has become the world over a spectacle that no one would benefit from except extremists and terrorists” who would use it to recruit future radicals.

After the news conference, however, Musri told The Associated Press there is no deal to move the mosque. He said there was only an agreement for him and Jones to travel to New York and meet Saturday with the imam overseeing plans to build a mosque near ground zero.

“I told the pastor that I personally believe the mosque should not be there, and I will do everything in my power to make sure it is moved,” Musri said. “But there is not any offer from there (New York) that it will be moved. All we have agreed to is a meeting, and I think we would all like to see a peaceful resolution.”

Musri did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment Thursday night after Jones accused him of lying.

In New York, the leader of the Islamic center project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, issued a statement saying he was glad Jones had decided not to burn the Quran but that he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri.

“We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter,” Rauf said. “We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony.”

The Lower Manhattan skyline shortly before 9/1...

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Jones’ decision to call off the Quran burning was made after a firestorm of criticism from leaders around the world. The pope and several other Christian leaders were among those urging him to reconsider his plans, which generated a wave of anger among Muslims. In Afghanistan, hundreds of Afghans burned an American flag and chanted “Death to the Christians” to protest the planned Quran burning.

Obama told ABC’s “Good Morning America” in an interview aired Thursday that Jones’ plan “is completely contrary to our values as Americans.”

“And as a very practical matter, I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women who are in uniform,” Obama said.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell confirmed that Gates called Jones about 4 p.m. EST Thursday — shortly before the pastor’s announcement. During the “very brief” call, Gates expressed “his grave concern that going forward with this Quran burning would put the lives of our forces at risk, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Morrell said.

Morrell said earlier that the decision to issue a personal appeal was not easy because it could provoke other extremists “who, all they want, is a call from so-and-so.” After Gates’ call to Jones, Morrell said the secretary’s “fundamental baseline attitude about this is that if that phone call could save the life of one man or woman in uniform it was a call worth placing.”

Husain Haqqani, Pakistan’s ambassador to the U.S., thanked Obama, Gates and other administration officials for their efforts. “This is definitely a positive moment in showing America’s tolerance and pluralism and should not go unappreciated in the Muslim world,” Haqqani said.

The cancellation also was welcomed by Jones’ neighbors in Gainesville, a city of 125,000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus. At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in the city had mobilized to plan inclusive events, including Quran readings at services, as a counterpoint to Jones’ protest.

Jones’ Dove Outreach Center is independent of any denomination. It follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day. Pentecostals often view themselves as engaged in spiritual warfare against satanic forces.

The pastor was not the only person to inject confusion into the debate over the New York mosque, which is planned to go up two blocks north of the trade center site. Donald Trump, who made a fortune in real estate, offered Thursday to buy out a major investor in the real estate partnership that controls the site where the 13-story Islamic center would be built.

Opponents argue it is insensitive to families and memories of Sept. 11 victims to build a mosque so close to where Islamic extremists flew planes into the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people. Proponents support the project as a reflection of religious freedom and diversity and say hatred of Muslims is fueling the opposition.

In a letter released Thursday by Trump’s publicist, Trump told Hisham Elzanaty that he would buy his stake in one of the two lower Manhattan buildings involved in the project for 25 percent more than whatever he paid — if the mosque is moved at least five blocks farther away from the trade center site.

“I am making this offer as a resident of New York and citizen of the United States, not because I think the location is a spectacular one (because it is not), but because it will end a very serious, inflammatory, and highly divisive situation that is destined, in my opinion, to only get worse,” the letter said.

Elzanaty’s response: No sale.

“This is just a cheap attempt to get publicity and get in the limelight,” said his lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky.

He added that the offer’s lack of seriousness is evident in the price.

The group collectively paid $4.8 million for the building Trump offered to buy. The other is being leased.

Starosolsky said the real estate partnership had already received two offers in the ballpark of $20 million.

“He knows what the value of the building is. If he were really interested in buying the building, he would have come forward with at least $20 million,” Starosolsky said.

Starosolsky added that Elzanaty remains committed to the idea of having a mosque built on at least part of the property.

It’s unclear how much control Elzanaty has over the property, which is owned by an eight-member investment group led by El-Gamal’s real estate company, Soho Properties.

El-Gamal said Soho Properties controls the site, but didn’t elaborate. His spokesman said he couldn’t answer questions about the investment team or ownership issues.

In a pair of interviews with the AP this week, Elzanaty said he had invested in the site with an intention of making a profit and was willing to half the land for private development, and maybe all of it if a Muslim group doesn’t come forward with enough money to build the mosque.

Associated Press Writers David B. Caruso in New York, Anne Flaherty and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington and AP Legal Affairs Writer Curt Anderson in Miami contributed to this report.

Obama’s Birth Certificate evidence may cause the Administration “embarrassment” and is up to Congress to call for impeachment of a sitting president” says Army Judge Col. Denise R. Lind

September 4, 2010

The Oath of office for an Officer in the Army:

I (insert name), having been appointed a (insert rank) in the U.S. Army under the conditions indicated in this document, do accept such appointment and do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God.

It says nothing about obeying orders.

Thats because ALL officers have the ability to question orders for CONSTITUTIONALITY!

American Grand Jury comment on same subject –

In the Judge’s decision excluding evidence for “embarrassing” reasons there is ample latitude for an appeal. In Courts-Martial: “The ‘sole test’ for admissibility is whether the evidence of the misconduct is offered for some purpose other than to demonstrate the accused’s predisposition to crime and therefore to suggest that the factfinder infer that he is guilty, as charged, because he is predisposed to commit similar offenses. It is unnecessary that relevant evidence fit snugly into a pigeon hole provided by Military Rules of Evidence. 404(b). United States v. Castillo, 29 M.J. 145, 150 (C.M.A. 1989).” Thus, in my view, the Judge has purposely set up for an appeal. Colonel Lakin clearly has an exemplary Character and military record. The Judge’s exclusion of the ELIGIBILITY evidence fails to pass the “Sole Test” requirement in courts-martial and must be allowed. Indeed, the entire case hinges on whether or not the Commander in Chief is legitimate or a USURPER unqualified under our Constitution. Discovery of the ELIGIBILITY evidence is the only reason the distinguished military physician invited his own court-martial; he was unable to ascertain ELIGIBILITY because of demonstrated legal obfuscation and interference instituted by the attorneys representing the putative POTUS. Clearly Colonel Lakin is not predisposed to commit similar offenses with an unblemished 18+ year record and selection for O-6 prior to his invitation to Court-Martial.


Eldon E. Bell, M.D. (Colonel US Army Retired) Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 10:54 am

Military Judge rules on the ‘Question that won’t go away’:

By Dr. Theo on September 4th, 2010

Army Col. Denise R. Lind ruled last week that LTC Terry Lakin, MC “will be denied access to any of Obama’s records as well as any testimony from those who may have access to the records.” Lakin, a career officer and medical doctor has refused orders for a second deployment to Afghanistan on the grounds that he must be convinced that such orders are lawful, specifically that the Commander in Chief has the Constitutional eligibility to command the military.

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In this video, ppsimmons (yt) provides more background and then reveals a shocking element that was revealed in the judge’s ruling. How much longer can Obama and the sycophant media ignore this question?
Billboard in Pennsylvania sponsored by Joe Farah of WND

Once more, the issue of Obama’s birth and citizenship are being questioned by a career military officer. In an affidavit in Lakin’s defense retired Lt. Gen. Thomas G. McInerney stated that Lakin’s access to documents and testimony relating to Obama’s claimed citizenship are essential to his defense and to the integrity of the military chain of command.

McInerney is quoted by WorldNetDaily on Thursday
as saying “There can be no question that it is absolutely essential to good order and discipline in the military that there be no break in the unified chain of command, from the lowliest E-1 up to and including the commander in chief who is under the Constitution, the president of the United States. As military officers, we owe our ultimate loyalty not to superior officers or even to the president, but rather, to the Constitution.”

Article 92 of the UCMJ states that “A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the laws of the United States, or lawful superior orders or for some other reason is beyond the authority of the official issuing it.” A lawful order can only come from a superior that has the Constitutional authority to issue it. The Oath of Enlistment, taken by every memeber of the armed services from the lowliest private to the highest ranking officers makes clear that one’s duty is to the Constitution above all else.

Judge throws out case based on TWITTER – Twitter carries more influence than Truth and FACTS
Maryland- September 2nd – Fort Meade – Three-Star General Files Sworn Affidavit Supporting LTC Lakin’s Case – Retired Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney has supplied an affidavit in support of Army Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, who faces trial on October 13-15.

Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

Petition – Barack Obama should not be President – State Dept. confirms Obama dual citizen

Elena Kagan – Tied to the OBAMA birth certificate issue.

A birth certificate from Hawaii that IS legitimate:

update- OBAMA – should not be president….–Oklahoma -Candidate for Congress ” ‘If he claims he was born at Kapi’olani, I want him to show proof’

Judge throws out case based on TWITTER – Twitter carries more influence than Truth and FACTS

September 2, 2010

This adds insult to injury.

Our government has completely abandoned us.

If the government deems your concerns are irrelevant then concerns relevant, then YOU are irrelevant.

Twitter carries more influence than Truth and FACTS

We don’t have any ability to legally redress our government.

This Judge should be impeached for incompetence.  He is insulting and is overstepping his sworn oath to his office.  The way that he answered the Hemenway case is derogatory and without FACTS.  He has acted like a KING and not a Judge.  He literally just DISMISSED the case.  How is that right?

This is what our MILITARY and Security forces are up against.

Janet Naplitano should be removed and charged with Treason.  Our country has become lawless and she has single handedly, with OBAMA’s help, managed to put all Americans in grave peril.

Yesterday, a gunman walked (waltzed) through the Discovery building and was able to take hostages.  He was wearing big canisters of propane and had weapons on him.  This man was not taken seriously.  And this is the result.  Our SECURITY has been derailed.  This type of incompetence is not logical.  It is DIRECTED.

The American people are ignored.  The ELITE, the government, have become something to fear.  Fear, like a Parent.  They even talk down to us, as if WE are children.  The GOVERNMENT was supposed to be the child and WE THE PEOPLE it’s parent.  The founders warned us and the Communists tricked us.  Lets admit that we were duped and take the corrective action necessary.

Let’s begin with the Birth of the current President.  OBAMA and his RIGHT to be our PRESIDENT.

Let’s DEMAND the FACTS and the TRUTH.  Don’t let people tell you that your crazy just because you want to SEE the proof.

Maryland- September 2nd – Fort Meade – Three-Star General Files Sworn Affidavit Supporting LTC Lakin’s Case – Retired Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney has supplied an affidavit in support of Army Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, who faces trial on October 13-15.


General: Obama records ‘critical’ to ‘our republic’

McInerney: Eligibility issue ‘of such magnitude that its significance can scarcely be imagined’

Posted: August 31, 2010
8:10 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

A retired U.S. Air Force lieutenant general who commanded forces armed with nuclear weapons says the disclosure of Barack Obama’s documentation proving his eligibility to be commander in chief is critical not just to the defense of an officer challenging the president’s status, but to the preservation of the nation itself.

The vehement statements came in an affidavit from retired Lt. Gen. Thomas G. McInerney, a Fox News military analyst, that was disclosed today by an organization generating support for Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin

Lakin had invited his own court-martial because he is unable to follow orders under the chain of command with Obama at its head unless the president’s eligibility is documented.

A hearing is scheduled in Lakin’s court-martial case Thursday at which a ruling is expected on defense requests for the very evidence that McInerney is citing.

The general, who retired in 1994 after serving as vice commander in chief of USAF forces in Europe, commander of the 3rd Tactical Fighter Wing and assistant vice chief of staff of the U.S. Air Force, among other positions, said the chain of command issue is critical, since officers are obligated both to follow orders and to disobey illegal orders.

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“Officers in the United States military service are – and must be – trained that they owe their highest allegiance to the United States Constitution,” he said in the affidavit.

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There can be no question that it is absolutely essential to good order and discipline in the military that there be no break in the unified chain of command, from the lowliest E-1 up to and including the commander in chief who is under the Constitution, the president of the United States. As military officers, we owe our ultimate loyalty not to superior officers or even to the president, but rather, to the Constitution.”

He continued, explaining, “good order and disipline requires not blind obedience to all orders but instead requires officers to judge – sometimes under great adversity – whether an order is illegal.”

“The president of the United States, as the commander in chief, is the source of all military authority,” he said. “The Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen in order to be eligible to hold office. If he is ineligible under the Constitution to serve in that office that creates a break in the chain of command of such magnitude that its significance can scarcely be imagined.”

Lakin is being supported by the American Patriot Foundation, which said the affidavitis for use in Lakin’s trial, scheduled Oct. 13-15, as well as Thursday’s hearing on the evidence to be allowed in the case.

The group said McInerney is the highest-ranking officer yet to lend public support to Lakin.

A recent poll showed that only about 4 in 10 Americans believe Obama’s story of being born in Hawaii.

McInerney’s affidavit “acknowledges widespread concerns over the president’s constitutional eligibility and demands the president release his birth records or the court authorize discovery,” the foundation said.

Lakin’s defense counsel has asked for the president’s school records as well as a deposition from the custodian of Obama’s birth records that may exist in Hawaii.

The hearing is scheduled at 11 a.m. Thursday at Ft. Meade, Md., at the courthouse at 4432 Llewellyn Ave., inside the military base. The court is open to the public.

Lakin is a physician and in his 18th year of service in the Army. He posted a video asking for the court-martial to determine Obama’s eligibility.

He is board certified in family medicine and occupational and environmental medicine. He has been recognized for his outstanding service as a flight surgeon for year-long tours in Honduras, Bosnia and Afghanistan. He was also awarded the Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan and recognized in 2005 as one of the Army Medical Department’s outstanding flight surgeons.

McInerney commanded forces equipped withi nuclear weapons.

“In my command capacity I was responsible that the personnel with access to these weapons had an unwavering and absolute confidence in the unified chain of command, because such confidence was absolutely essential – vital – in the event the use of those weapons were authorized,” the general wrote.

“I cannot overstate how imperative it is to train such personnel to have confidence in the unified chain of command. Today, because of the widespread and legitimate concerns that the president is constitutionally ineligible to hold office, I fear what would happen should such a crisis occur today.”

He said Lakin is acting “exactly” as “proper training dictates.”

“It is my opinion that LTC Lakin’s request for discovery relating to the president’s birth records in Hawaii is absolutely essential to determining not merely his guilt or innocence but to reassuring all military personnel once and for all for this president whether his service as commander in chief is constitutionally proper.

“He is the one single person in the chain of command that the Constitution demands proof of natural born citizenship,” he continued. “This determination is fundamental to our republic.

“According to the Constitution, the commander in chief must now, in the face of serious – and widely-held – concerns that he is ineligible, either voluntarily establish his eligibility by authorizing release of his birth records or this court must authorize their discovery. The invasion of his privacy in these records is utterly trivial compared to the issues at stake here,” McInerney wrote.

Lakin is represented by military counsel and by Paul Rolf Jensen, a civilian attorney from California who has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution.

The foundation says the Army’s opinion of Lakin was made clear in an evaluation just before Lakin raised the issue of eligibility.

From Col. Dale Block: “Dr. Lakin is an extremely talented, highly knowledgeable senior Army clinician … he can always be counted on to provide me with expert advice. … LTC Lakin is clearly one of the top clinicians in the Northern Regional Medical Command. He has superb clinical skills, rapport with patients and staff. … Terry is the best choice for tough assignments. … Already on the promotion list to colonel, he should be groomed for positions of greater responsibility.”

But Lakin, the foundation says, has been compelled to act because he swore an oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution. Obama’s eligibility to be president has been questioned, he argues, and Obama has refused all efforts to obtain documents that could determine his eligibility.

The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

A number of challenges and lawsuits have been based on the constitutional requirement, some alleging Obama does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims. Others say he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen of the U.S. and the United Kingdom when he was born, and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.

Complicating the issue is the fact that besides Obama’s actual birth documentation, he has kept from the public documentation including his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, OccidentalCollege records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.

Lakin declined to follow deployment orders after he tried through military channels to affirm the validity of orders under Obama’s command and was rebuffed. He had been scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan again.

Lakin is not the first officer to raise questions. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook.

In at least one of the earlier disputes, the Army simply canceled the orders rather than allow the argument to come to a head.

Lakin’s attorneys have said they now are demanding “discovery” of Obama’s records, and that in such a dispute that information is critical. The multitude of civil cases that have been brought over the Obama eligibility dispute all have failed to reach that process because of federal judges who have ruled on issues generally involving “standing.” The judges have concluded that damages from an ineligible president suffered by the plaintiffs would not be more for them than any other member of the public, so there is not a specific damage or danger.

Lakin’s counsel, Jensen, has explained that the Lakin case is different, since his client is being processed on criminal charges over the issue – a status that puts him in imminent danger of specific and personal “damages.”

The courts already have shown a weakness on the subject of Obama’s records. The discovery-of-evidence issue previously was raised in court by attorney John Hemenway, who was threatened by a federal judge with sanctions for bringing a court challenge to Obama’s presidency.

Hemenway is serving in emeritus status with the SafeguardOurConstitution website. Hemenway brought a previous court challenge, now on appeal, on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who questioned Obama’s eligibility.

The Hollister case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson, who notably ruled during the 2008 election campaign that the federal legal dispute had been “twittered” and, therefore, resolved.

Robertson sarcastically wrote: “The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel’s satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.

“The issue of the president’s citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court,” Robertson wrote.

Then the judge suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case. Hemenway responded that the process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge’s statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly “vetted.”

Hemenway warned at the time, “If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.

“The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery,” Hemenway said.

The court ultimately backed off its threat of sanctions.

In a separate case, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threatened sanctions against attorney Mario Apuzzo. The court quickly backed off, however, when Apuzzo noted that under the rules of court procedure, being subjected to sanctions and penalties would give him the right to discovery in the case, possibly including Obama’s birth certificate.

The Constitution requires a president to be a “natural born citizen,” and, while the term is not defined in the Constitution, many legal analysts believe at the time it was written it meant a person born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents. Critics say Obama clearly does not qualify under that definition, since he has admitted in his book his father never was a U.S. citizen. Some legal challenges have argued he wasn’t even born in Hawaii.

Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, has said there “definitely” are problems with Obama’s Hawaii birth story.

“As of the time I was in Hawaii working in the elections office we had many people who were asking about the eligibility of Senator Obama to be president. I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu. There is no such form in Hawaii,” he said.

Lakin had posted a YouTube video challenging the Army to charge him over the issue.

As WND reported, Lakin posted the video of his challenge to Obama to document his eligibility March 30.

In his latest video, Lakin said the issue of evidence is important:

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