Libya – The UK and France aggressively go to missiles while America and Germany play smaller and supportive roles.


The progressives and liberals should be totally against this.  Imagine the “environmental” impact so many bombs have on the environment.  They should be looking at that shouldn’t they?

The liberals and progressives are throwing bombs on civilians and they justify this?  The civilians are the ones that are going to be dead.

Libya TV: airstrikes hit civilian areas in Tripoli

Libyan TV claims that airstrikes have hit civilian areas in the capital, Tripoli, but the report couldn’t be independently confirmed. Saturday’s report gave no more details. It comes after the international community launched its broadest military effort since the Iraq war in support of an uprising that had seemed on the verge of defeat.

French fighter jets fired the first shots at Moammar Gaddafi’s troops, and the Pentagon says the U.S. has launched missile strike on Libyan air defenses. (AP),7340,L-4044611,00.html




With Libya, is ‘Obama doctrine’ on war emerging?

Barack Obama entered the White House responsible for two wars he had inherited. Now, as Iraq winds down and Afghanistan drags on, he finds himself at the outset of possible US combat in Libya.

By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff Writer / March 19, 2011

Barack Obama began his presidential term as commander-in-chief responsible for two wars he had inherited. Now, as Iraq winds down and Afghanistan drags on – both of which have uncertain futures – he finds himself at the outset of possible US combat in Libya.

President Barack Obama makes a statement on Libya, Friday, March 18, 2011, in the East Room of the White House in Washington. AP Photo



As a result, while any “Obama doctrine” regarding the use of US military force has yet to be declared, one seems to be emerging.

Obama’s actions in this case have been deliberate, indicating a clear hesitance to be out front in yet another war in a Muslim country.

IN PICTURES: Qaddafi burns oil pipelines in Libya

He seemed to be listening closely to Defense Secretary Robert Gates and uniformed military leaders warning of what they saw as great difficulties in implementing a no-fly zone in Libya. Only when some Arab nations, plus major European powers, were ready to take on Muammar Qaddafi militarily did Obama indicate the same.

The situation on the ground Saturday was moving rapidly.

Despite Qaddafi’s announced “ceasefire,” Libyan troops were still attacking opposition forces in the rebel capital of Benghazi. As the fighting continued, meanwhile, US, European and Arab officials were holding an emergency summit in Paris Saturday to define the terms of military engagement in Libya.

So far, at least, the US military role looks like it’ll be largely supportive as Britain and France take the lead following the United Nations declaration approving military efforts to prevent Libyan President Muammar Qaddafi from further attacking his government opponents among the civilian population.


Germany Comes up Small on Libya — Wrong Time to Duck Responsibility

<so, what is it that make Germany not so interested and France and the UK so VERY interested.  The “humanitarian” reasons just don’t pass muster.  If it was ALL THAT for “humanitarian” reasons alone or OIL reasons alone, then why would one country want to go for it but not another?  While Obama seems to be rather lukewarm  toward the entire thing? While he is not all together passionate regarding it, the progressives seem to be jumping on the band wagon with France and the UK.   Things don’t add up >

British and French fighters seem likely to be the first to attack military targets in Libya, and as the Paris summit wrapped up Saturday afternoon, French aircraft already had begun flying over Libya.

France's president Nicolas Sarkozy accompanies US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton before a summit at the Elysee Palace in Paris Saturday, on implementing the UN Security Council resolution authorizing military action in Libya. Newscom

The US is prepared to back them up by providing intelligence using drone aircraft, aerial refueling, and command-and-control of airspace using AWACS aircraft. American naval forces in the Mediterranean Sea also are equipped to launch cruise missiles.

“We will provide the unique capabilities that we can bring to bear to stop the violence against civilians, including enabling our European allies and Arab partners to effectively enforce a no-fly zone,” Obama said Friday in his statement regarding the situation in Libya. “Unique capabilities” seems to have been the operative phrase.

“The president chose his words deliberately and carefully, and you should be guided by them,” a senior US official later told CNN. “He is very sensitive that this not be a US operation.”

Leading up to the UN vote, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and UN Ambassador Susan Rice were privately urging Security Council members to move the resolution forward, helping toughen some of the language.

Still, it was clear from Obama’s statement Friday that the US role in any military action would be largely supportive, and that in any case it definitely would not include US ground troops.

But any combat involvement by the US, though it be led by its partners among European and Arab nations, could quickly become a complicated situation – dragging on as new threats emerge.

One concern is that a desperate Qaddafi could resort to acts of terrorism or the use of the mustard gas he’s known to possess.

“Qaddafi has the penchant to do things of a very concerning nature,” John Brennan, the top White House counter-terrorism official, told reporters Friday evening.

“We have to anticipate and be prepared for things that he might try to do to flout the will of the international community,” Brennan said, according to NPR. “Terrorism is certainly a tool that a lot of individuals will opt for when they lose other options.”

Brennan also warned that “terrorist elements may try to take advantage of this situation” in Libya.

“Al Qaeda has a demonstrated track record of trying to exploit either political vacuums, or political change, or uncertainty in a number of countries throughout the world,” he said. “Libya and the situation in Libya now will be no exception.”

Then too, there’s the question of Qaddafi’s future – the extent to which the US is prepared to see him forced out of power.

“The president has been very clear that, in the US view, and, indeed, in the view of most states in the world, that any legitimacy Qaddafi may have ever had to rule has long since been lost once he started these wanton attacks on his own people,” Ambassador Rice said on PBS’s The NewsHour Friday night. “That remains US policy.”

What’s unclear is the extent to which the US is willing and able to make Qaddafi’s departure happen. The answer to that question will give another clue about the “Obama doctrine.”



Chavez condemns military intervention in Libya

Venezuelan President Hugo is condemning the United States and its European allies for their military intervention in Libya. Chavez says in a televised speech that the US and its allies simply want to “seize Libya’s oil.” He says the United Nations has “infringed on its fundamental principles” by backing the no-fly zone in Libya.

Chavez has long-standing ties to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and had been calling for mediation to help bring a negotiated solution as rebels have been fighting government troops. Chavez said in a televised speech Saturday, “We know what’s going to happen: bombs, bombs, war.” He said foreign powers are wrongly meddling in Libya’s “internal conflict,” and called that sad and “disgusting.” (AP),7340,L-4044616,00.html





Libya: British forces fire missiles at Gaddafi

Britain has fired missiles at Libya as Colonel Muammar Gaddafi defied the world and continued to attack civilians.
David Cameron and a Tomahawk missile

L-David Cameron after COBRA meeting R-A Tomahawk missile




By Colin Freeman, in Benghazi and Sean Rayment8:28PM GMT 19 Mar 2011215 Comments

David Cameron ordered British forces into action against Libya in “Operation Ellamy” after world leaders united to tell the dictator the “time for action” had come.

Blasts were heard east of Tripoli late on Saturday night.

The Tomahawk missiles were launched from a Trafalgar class submarine off Libya.

British Tornado jets were poised to join the multinational operation which is expected to see much of Gaddafi’s armed forces destroyed in an effort to stop his assault on rebel strongholds.

Outside Downing Street, Mr Cameron said British forces were in action over Libya.



“What we are doing is necessary, it is legal and it is right,” he said. “I believe we should not stand aside while this dictator murders his own people.

“Tonight our thoughts should be with those in our armed services who are putting their lives at risk to save the lives of others. They are the bravest of the brave.”

French combat jets were the first to attack on Saturday as they destroyed four tanks at 4.45pm — hours after 19 world leaders gathered in Paris to agree multinational action. The Libyan dictator tried to wrong-foot the international community by declaring a ceasefire, even though his forces kept up an onslaught on the rebel stronghold of Benghazi.

In Paris Mr Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, led a summit that agreed to “all necessary action” in a move backed by the United States, a series of European countries and, crucially, Arab nations.

Gaddafi was told to quit as:

• Libyan rebels said they feared any action was too late to stop atrocities as Gaddafi appeared to be moving human shields into airports and barracks and warned the world: “You will regret it if you dare to intervene in our country.”

• Up to 16 RAF Tornado ground attack planes were prepared to scramble from RAF Marham to destroy Libya’s air defence system while eight Typhoons are set to patrol over Libya

• After returning from Paris, Mr Cameron held a meeting of the Cobra emergency committee with senior ministers and the Chief of the Defence Staff

• American forces launched Tomahawk missiles from warships in the Mediterranean

• Planes from Canada, Denmark and Spain arrived at bases near Libya and more air power was expected

• Russia broke international consensus to say it “regretted” action against Gaddafi

• The Libyan dictator’s forces shelled rebel positions, leading to civilians beginning to flee Benghazi

• A Libyan jet whose pilot defected to the rebels crashed in Benghazi after being shot down by its own side.

Speaking after the meeting at the Elysée Palace, Mr Cameron said Col Gaddafi had “lied” to the international community, violated his own “ceasefire” and now faced “urgent” action.

Sources said Britain, France and the United States had assumed the “leadership” of the coalition in early talks between the Prime Minister, Mr Sarkozy and Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state.

The “extremely purposeful conclusion” of the early talks was endorsed by the full meeting, where speakers included Ban Ki-Moon, the United Nations secretary general.

Sources said Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, “supported” action against Libya despite abstaining in last week’s UN Security Council vote.

The summit was also attended by Amr Moussa, the Arab League secretary general, and representatives of Arab states including Qatar, the UAE, Iraq, Jordan and Morocco. Qatar and the UAE are expected to join the military effort.

Canadian F-18 combat jets landed at Prestwick Airport in Ayrshire to refuel before heading to northern Sicily while six Danish F-16s jet arrived at the island ready for operations later today.

Over the next few days more Nato ships will begin to converge on Libya with the aim of enforcing a naval blockade.

Royal Navy frigate HMS Westminster is already off the Libyan coast while HMS Cumberland, also a frigate, is in the Mediterranean.

Britain’s contribution will be controlled by Joint Force Air Component, a command and control structure already deployed to RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus. Elements of the US Navy began to concentrate their forces in the region. The USS Enterprise carrier strike group was ready for action in the Red Sea. Also in the region was the USS Kearsarge Expeditionary Strike Group.

Barack Obama said the international community was resolved to protect the people of Libya. “In the absence of an immediate end to the violence against civilians, our coalition is prepared to act and act with urgency,” he said.

In a straw poll of Sunday Telegraph readers by eDigital, an independent market research company, 57 per cent said they supported the Government’s decision to take part in international action against Gaddafi forces, while 27 per cent opposed it.

Asked whether British ground forces should be used if the regime’s attacks on civilians continued, 48 per cent said “yes” while 47 per cent said “no”.

About two thirds said the Coalition should reconsider its defence cuts in light of the situation.

But in Libya the crisis deepened. There was brutal retaliation by Gaddafi forces in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi, prompting thousands of civilians to flee eastwards towards the Egyptian border.

Artillery bombardment of the city began early on Saturday, with reports that ground troops were approaching from the coast and the south.

As explosions shook the city, a large plume of black smoke rose from the edge of Benghazi. A doctor said 27 bodies had reached hospitals by midday.

Residents set up makeshift barricades with furniture, benches and road signs along main streets, with each barricade manned by rebels.

During the day, rebels retreated but later claimed they had regained ground, seizing four tanks from Gaddafi forces. Mr Sarkozy said Gaddafi’s actions would not be tolerated.

At the summit talks he said participants agreed “to use all necessary means – in particular military means – to enforce the Security Council decisions”.

Mr Sarkozy said Gaddafi had brushed off calls for an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of his troops.

“Gaddafi has ignored this warning,” he said. “His forces have stepped up their deadly offensive. Arab peoples have chosen to free themselves from the enslavement in which they have felt trapped.”

Mrs Clinton said the US would use its military capabilities to help its European and Canadian allies and Arab partners stop Gaddafi from attacking Libyan people.

“Colonel Gaddafi continues to defy the world and his attacks on civilians go on,” she said.

Jim Murphy, the shadow defence secretary, said: “This is a moment of truth for the international community to end the slaughter of innocents in Libya.

“The Government is right to take strong and urgent action. Gaddafi has no one to blame but himself. Britain should stand in solidarity with the Libyan people.”



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