Either this POPE is THE most liberal POPE ever or he’s got something up his sleeve.
I think that he’s got something up his sleeve, because one doesn’t get to be the POPE being stupid.
The POPE KNOWS that women have and will be used as WEAPONS. The burqa is a tool to use.
The Burqa can be used as a weapon. It’s also used to create fear, because standing next to someone who is covered from head to foot is OFFENSIVE. This is not a weapon that is passive. It’s a THREAT!
When you can’t see a person and you can’t know that you want that proximity, it’s a HORROR.
See the article after the first one. Identitiy is important on many different levels and in everyday encounters. This is why women are not trusted in the ME. How can you trust someone that you can’t see?
The third article is a confrontation to the debate.
I don’t even see WHY it’s being debated here. It’s an affront to the WEST. The burqa is not a proper article of clothing. Throughout the WEST, the custom is for MEN to TAKE off their hats, when they enter a house or an interior. No one knows whats under that drape. There is no reason for it in America. We have laws that guard against women being abused and raped. Men practice personal restraint. This PSYCHOLOGICAL manipulation is used to instill fear and cause political unrest. This should not even be a discussion.
Lastly, even though the POPE has this “confused,” the Italians are very clear as to what will fly and what doesn’t
Pope Benedict XVI’s new book, “Light of the World,” which has been making saucy headlines for days now, was released in full on Tuesday.
The highlight of the book-long interview with German journalist Peter Seewald seems to be when the Pope reneges on his dubious “condoms provoke the spread of HIV in Africa” comment from 2009, and concedes that it’s okay for gay prostitutes with AIDS to wrap it up.
<seems like he’s been “talked” to>
The Pope specifies that prostitutes can be justified when condoms are used with “the intention of reducing the risk of infection,” but not for preventing baby-making, and that condom use among infected prostitutes can be seen as “a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way of living sexuality.”
Uh, yeah. Thanks Mr. Pope.
Using a condom when you have AIDS should be sternly encouraged by everyone everywhere, if not required by law. Nadja Benaissa even received a two-year suspended sentence this summer when she was found guilty of having unprotected sex with her boyfriend despite knowing she was infected with HIV, reported the Examiner.
But the Pope’s new assertion that in some very extreme circumstances the use of condoms is excusable has been met with a worldwide standing ovation.
<thats because no one cares about his “explanations.” When is prostitution ok, anyway? >
I understand the concept of baby steps, but to me, this seems like a less self-aware version of the time Pamela Anderson said, “It’s great being blonde – with such low expectations it’s easy to impress.”
The Pope, who has described homosexuality as a “tendency” towards an “intrinsic moral evil,” is so far behind the curve of both science and human rights that a rather homophobic capitulation involving the spread of AIDS makes him seem like he’s the coolest, hippest Pope in the history of the world. The AP even called his new stance a “stunning development.”
Despite all of the positive press they’ve garnered so far, the Vatican is scrambling to make reparations to all the confused Christians who took his previous comments about AIDS as the word of God.
In a statement released today, an expert at the Vatican’s bioethics advisory board, Monsignor Jacques Suaudeau, said, “Contraception is not the worst evil. The church does not see it as good, but the church does not see it as the worst. Abortion is far worse. Passing on HIV is criminal. That is absolute irresponsibility.”
As long as the Vatican is vocally anti-birth control and calling abortion evil, it will be hard for me to get excited about quotes like these. On the other hand, I find the Pope’s comments on France’s Burqa ban to be much more progressive and worthy of this kind of shitstorm:
“As far as the burqa is concerned, I do not see a reason for a general ban. Some women do not wear the burqa entirely voluntarily and it is correct to talk of a violation against that woman. Of course one can not agree with that. But if they want to wear it voluntarily, I don’t know why one must ban them.”
Now that’s a Pope quote I can get behind.
Turin official asks school board to ban burqa-wearing mothers:
Indo-Asian News Service
Rome, November 25, 2010
A government official in industrial northern Italian city of Turin has asked the local school board to stop fully-veiled women from picking up their children at school because it makes it difficult to identify them as the students’ true parents. The request by Maurizio Marrone – a member of Prime
Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s conservative People of Liberty party – was prompted after Marrone and other mothers had seen some women dressed in full burqas picking up their children from an elementary school in Turin’s Barriera di Milano working class neighbourhood.
“Some mothers with children enrolled in the Albert Sabin elementary school in Turin have seen Islamic women wearing the full burqa picking up their children, and I have seen this as well,” Marrone said, adding that the burqa made it impossible for teachers to “verify the identity” of those picking up minors.
Marrone went on to call the wearing of the burqa, the traditional dress of fundamentalist Islamic women, “damaging to the dignity of women”. Marrone also claims the burqa “slows down the process of integration” for immigrants.
In September 2010, two separate bills were presented in the upper and lower chambers of the Italian parliament which aim to end the wearing of face-covering burqa’s in Italy.
Also in September, France voted to ban the burqa. Women there can be fined or jailed if covering their faces in public.
Complaint lodged over burqa mural
Josephine Tovey URBAN AFFAIRS
IT HAS become a lightning rod in the public debate about the right of Muslim women to wear the burqa, attracting protests, the censure of a mayor and messages of support from talkback radio.
But now the Newtown mural of a woman in a full-face Muslim covering with a strike symbol over her face and the words ”Say No to the Burqa” is the subject of an anti-discrimination complaint.
Cigdem Aydemir, 27, a Muslim, artist and high-school art teacher, said she felt ”completely offended and insulted” when she saw the mural pop up in her neighbourhood.
The work of a local artist, Sergio Redegalli, the piece adorns a wall of his studio facing the street and the busy rail line.
”My sister-in-law wears a burqa … my mother wears a veil,” she said. ”I wore a veil for 10 years of my life. I think everyone has the right to wear whatever they want on their body and that kind of diversity needs to be protected.”
Aydemir went to the police and then the council to try to make the complaint, but as the mural was painted on private property neither could intervene. She lodged her concerns with the Anti-Discrimination Board, who this week notified Redegalli.
He said he had painted it to open debate about the burqa, but now felt his right to freedom of expression was on the line.
”There’s a problem about the right to free expression, the loss of the ability to say something without instantly being branded a racist,” Redegalli said. He cited a number of reasons for his opposition to the garment, including concerns about security and the rise of Islamic extremism in Australia.
”There’s thousands that can say we don’t actually feel comfortable about this – that’s not being taken seriously,” he said.
But Aydemir said: ”It’s Islamophobic; it’s feeding the racist and sexist attitudes we have in our society.”
The image has drawn fire from locals, and has been defaced at least 20 times. The former Marrickville mayor, Sam Iskander, said in September the mural ”goes against the values which the Marrickville community has believed in and practised for generations”.
Italy: Junior minister to attend conference on the burqa:
ultimo aggiornamento: 26 novembre, ore 18:50
Italian interior ministry under-secretary Alfredo Mantovano was on Monday due to attend a conference in the northern city of Milan on the Muslim burqua and freedom of religion in Italy. The conference is being organised by a deputy from the centrist Catholic UDC opposition party, Pierluigi Mantini.
Rome, 26 Nov. (AKI) – Italian interior ministry under-secretary Alfredo Mantovano was on Monday due to attend a conference in the northern city of Milan on the Muslim burqa and freedom of religion in Italy. The conference is being organised by a deputy from the centrist Catholic UDC opposition party, Pierluigi Mantini.
A member of the European Parliament from Italy’s ruling Conservative People of Freedom party, Gabriele Albertini, and a senator from Italy’s centre-right Future and Freedom party, Giuseppe Valditara, will speak at the conference.
In September this year, two separate bills were presented in the upper and lower houses of the Italian parliament which aim to end the wearing of face-covering burqas in Italy on security grounds. The move is opposed by most Muslim immigrants on the grounds that it would curb their religious freedom.
If the bill becomes law, Italy will be the second European country to ban the burqa. France’s parliament in September outlawed the burqa and veils which cover the face. Women there can be fined or jailed for wearing such garments.